Commons talk:Freedom of panorama

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This map is a stupid joke?

What is this map ?! There's some weird map over there. After all, Crimea belongs to Ukraine. This map was made by some Russian agent? MOs810 (talk) 14:35, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

@MOs810: apparently, Crimea is no longer under Ukraine copyright law, with recent architectural works from there now accepted here with rationale "Crimea is using Russian law." JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 18:21, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

and on what legal basis ??? on what basis is Russian law applicable in Ukraine ??? MOs810 (talk) 19:55, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

I'm sure copyright issues are at the top of Putin's agenda. --←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:15, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

I think we have usually used "de facto" law on the ground for contested regions, for better or worse. The previous map used gray ("unknown") for Crimea, rather than the same as Russia, which would likely be more appropriate here since I don't think we have any idea what the legal situation is there. Ukraine only has non-commercial FoP though, so not sure it makes a real difference here. Carl Lindberg (talk) 00:14, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

@MOs810, Baseball Bugs, and Clindberg: setting geopolitics and map accuracy aside, there was a proposal as late as around 2017/18 to introduce freedom of panorama there, spearheaded by Ukrainian Wikipedians (Wikimedia Ukraine community). However, no breakthrough updates since then. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 02:33, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Translating a relevant passage at w:uk:Свобода панорами#Свобода панорами за законодавством України, aided by Google Translate with some modifications (removing superscript citations for ease of reading):

Translated

• On December 29, 2014, Members of the Parliament Taras Yuryk and Taras Kremin filed the Bill № 1677 "On Amendments to the Law of Ukraine" On Copyright and Related Rights (on Freedom of Panorama)." The proposed changes were to adapt the legislation of Ukraine in line with the EU legislation and to create conditions for facilitating the dissemination of information regarding Ukraine. The proposal was withdrawn in August 2019. The NGO "Wikimedia Ukraine" developed the proposal. At the same time, the State Intellectual Property Service of Ukraine formulated another bill to oversee the "freedom of panorama" issue.

Original

• 29 грудня 2014 р. у Верховній Раді України було зареєстровано законопроект № 1677 народних депутатів Тараса Юрика та Тараса Креміня «Про внесення доповнень до Закону України „Про авторське право та суміжні права“ (щодо свободи панорами)». Запропоновані зміни мали адаптувати законодавство України до законодавства ЄС та створити умови для прискорення поширення інформації про Україну. Проект відкликано в серпні 2019 року. Розробником проекту є Громадська організація «Вікімедіа Україна». Водночас, Державна служба інтелектуальної власності України розробляла інший законопроект, який мав врегулювати питання «свободи панорами».

_ JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 04:13, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

"Text"

There does not seem to be a description on this FoP page as to what describes "text" in a freedom of panorama. It seems confusing to me that the page instantly just went to mention what countries accept text. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 04:27, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

That's because text has the same meaning here as in the rest of copyright law. If you have a specific question, we can help, but otherwise...--Prosfilaes (talk) 05:57, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

So, what constitutes "text" in the sense of something copyrightable? Would it be better to make at least a mention on discussing the copyrightability of "text" in other countries? Such as New Zealand, which apparently does not have a freedom of panorama for text. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 10:50, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Summary table (useful column)

Hello, you are invited to give your input on Commons talk:Freedom of panorama/table#Useless column. Thanks -- Basile Morin (talk) 03:25, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Architectural works definition

I'm missing a little bit at least mention that the definition of an architectural work may vary from country to country (for example coverage of non-builidng structures like bridges or utilitarian architecture, with no distinctive or creative element). Jklamo (talk) 00:12, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Jklamo, in most countries, the exception/limitation is not limited to architectural works, so one would not expect to find a definition of architectural works here. Generally speaking, the country-specific details of the provision can often be found if you click on the name of the country in the summary table. — Pajz (talk) 11:53, 20 September 2022 (UTC)